Jill
Reged: Jun 22 2006
Posts: 132
Loc: Irons, MI, US
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Yesterday I was out with a buddy and a friend of his. On the way home his buddy put on a song that I found appalling. (It was Dance with the Devil by Immortal Technique. The lyrics are graphic and very possibly triggering so take care.)
We discussed what the song meant and why they wanted to listen to it and it's potential social value but I'm still angry. How nice it much be for them to just hit play and listen to a song without being reminded that I'm not a person, I'm a woman. As such it's not necessarily safe for me to be out alone at night. And how completely ignorant of him to play a song where the rape and murder of a woman is presented far more salaciously than was necessary in front of a woman he had met earlier that morning. I'm not an abuse survivor but he had no way of know that.
I finally did get my point across and he apologized for offending me but I don't think I changed anything. I don't think he'll think twice before doing something like that again. And that frustrates me and makes me angry. How on earth is it socially acceptable to expect women to just sit there quietly while listening to an account of senseless violence to another woman, even if it is fictitious? I think I was even supposed to like the song.
At the moment I never want to see him again. And even though I know my response was both civil and reasonable, there's a small voice telling me that I'm overreacting, that he didn't mean anything by it, that he apologized -- isn't that good enough? I'd like nothing more than to banish that little voice forever. I, and every other woman, am more than an object to raped and killed to make a point and I do not ever want to be asked to listen to something that presents me in that light again.
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Kampire
AGA Blogger
Reged: Jun 20 2006
Posts: 205
Loc: Ohio
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Interesting Jill. I heard this song a few weeks ago and didn't really know what to make of it.
If you are a man, unaware of your privilege I can see how you could think that the ultimate message of the song justifies the graphic descriptions in it.
But for anyone else to whom rape and abuse is a real and ever present threat it is impossible to "appreciate" this song in that way. The first time I heard the song I felt ill and I would NOT recommend reading the lyrics/hearing the song to another woman.
I'm glad you wrote about this Jill, because when I first heard of this rapper a male friend recommended him and played one of his songs (not this one) on Youtube. Later, I was listening to Immortal Technique's other songs and came across this one. So your story could very well have been mine.
On a side note, I really don't like this rapper. He's supposed to be whoo hoo, socially conscious but he falls far short in all of his songs. This song is one of the best examples of this
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