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Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes?
      Sun Jul 16 2006 06:04 PM

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As for Bridget Jones 2 and feeling empowered afterwards, could it be because of the Daniel character trying to manipulate Bridget into being with him, and being the stereotypical arrogant male who is sure he knows best, but she didn't listen and followed what she wanted and went back to Mark and all turned out well?





I honestly have no idea. This is really strange for me, because usually I have a fairly good idea of why I react in particular ways to texts-- I analyse them as my job after all (PhD student in English). The fact that she goes back to Mark-- a guy who is TOTALLY condescending towards her-- isn't particularly feminist. In that second movie they had absolutely NO onscreen chemistry, and as such, it really REALLY looks like just going back to a guy for the sake of, well, not being single. He also plays the typical "knight in shining armour" role, rescuing her from jail etc. I think the point I should be making with this, is just because a female character resonates strongly with us as women, it doesn't necessarily mean that a feminist statement is being made.

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This is what I mean when I talk about reading into things. You haven't even seen the film and already you’re making a claim that a movie about assassins is somehow about abortion? Or how much a woman is worth?





I was commenting on what has directly been reported about the film, however: I did NOT say “I heard this film must be about assassins, therefore it must be about abortion”—I looked at what has been said about the actual content of the film. Either the woman did refuse to kill another woman because she was pregnant, or she didn't. If she did, then that, in my opinion, DOES put a higher value on the life of the fetus than on the life of the woman, OR it says that a woman's life is more valuable when she's pregnant. And, yes, that is the same ideology that underpins the anti-abortion movement, though as Heather pointed out, I wasn't claiming that the film was making an explicit comment about abortion rights. Also as Heather said, it is important that we take all of our perspectives seriously, and to that end, I would like to hear about a closer analysis of the scene from you, in which you could perhaps make your point further.

Often, I think people avoid looking too closely at texts because they are afraid of being charged with “reading too much into it” or because they think the idea that things like sexism and racism are not very pervasive. Unfortunately, when you live in a culture that is based on the hegemony of a particular race and/or a particular gender, those things WILL be pervasive, but they will rarely be very obvious, because we just accept it as the norm.

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And, back to original topic, I can't believe that I didn't mention the girls from Bend it Like Beckham-- awesome, awesome portrayal of young women making it in a male-dominated sport (not to mention in the context of a culture that expects women to get married ASAP).

Edited by Beppie (Sun Jul 16 2006 06:07 PM)

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* Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? Jeyoani Fri Jul 14 2006 10:39 AM
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. * * Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? Amy   Fri Jul 14 2006 12:25 PM
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. * * Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? BrookeModerator   Fri Jul 14 2006 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? Celine   Fri Jul 14 2006 11:11 PM
. * * Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? Jean   Sat Jul 15 2006 04:04 AM
. * * Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? HeatherAdministrator   Sat Jul 15 2006 12:02 PM
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. * * Re: Favorite TV/Movie Sheroes? BeppieAdministrator   Sat Jul 15 2006 11:53 PM
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